From: philip-lutgendorf@uiowa.edu
NOTE: Prof. Lutgedorf is a recognized exprert on Indian cinema
and teaches a course on Bollywood at the Univ. of Iowa
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 23:40:09 -0500
Subject: Re: SHOLAY RIDES AGAIN -- Biff--Bam --Boom - Socko!
Dear Alex,
Thanks for your thoughts on this. At a certain period, Sholay had enormous impact in India, and a whole generation grew up watching it over and over again. Such people cannot “objectively” judge it against Westerns they never saw. For them, it is iconic, its characters are archetypal, and its dialog has nearly scriptural weight. Even though I was not one of these people, I find (having watched it maybe 8-10 times) that it holds up remarkably well. It is smart, tightly constructed, and surprisingly dark.
Philip
Hi Philip.
I appreciate your SHOLAY remarks.
Of course, not having been born yesterday, I am well-well aware of the impact of SHOLAY on
the collective Indian conscience. I was merely trying to offer up a detached (non-Deshi or NRI-shi)
view of the film in the context of World Cinema, against which it will inevitably be judged or adjudged
by western viewers unfamiliar with all the indigenous Deshi goodies in the film, and moreover, having
perforce to read the (iconic) dialogue, (as it were), through subtitles.
"What's your name, Basanti?" is a cute throw away line but it's more at the level of Jerry Lewiscomedy than the truly memorable "dialogues" (yes, I accept the Indian-English plural) of Preston Sturges, Hitchcock, etc, Hollywood films.
I personally found the flick quite enjoyable but I am not the typical raw-newcomer to Indian/Bollywood film,
and dug it on the many levels that would not come across to uninitiated western viewers.
Moreover, I have a hunch that--many --(but not all) western viewers would laugh it off the screen. I would love to see
Sholay with a totally "raw" western audience (one who, for example, would have no idea of the significance of Bachchan to Indians) ... and hear the comments on the way out of the theater. Mind you, I am not talking about students watching SHOLAY as part of a course on Indian film --who would already be "pre-conditioned' (as it were) to love the film (and respect it) --whether they actually loved it or not.
Many Americans sneered at Sergio Leone Spaghetti Westerns when they were making the rounds of the drive-ins in the
1970s --but many others dug them on their own terms --just as many people (Many-Many) went Ape over Bruce Lee Kung-fu flicks which I found Ughitty, Stupid and BORing ... catering to the lowest level OF IDIOTC violence buffs -- I watched one or two of them and then swiftly moved on --
Not to say that SHOLAY is on the ridiculous level of a KUNGFU wham-banger --but it's closest cousin--in terms of International Cinema -- (world cinema) is, in fact, the Spaghetti Western. And again --there are good, not-so-good, and completely shitty Spaghetti westerns -- I would rate SHOLAY as a fair-to-middlin' Spaghetti western --and Amitabh-ji far BELOW Clint Eastwood as a charismatic taciturn hero of that genre -- (to compare Sholay to "A Fistful of Dollars" ==>is like comparing FOOLS GOLD TO GOLD) --
As for the famous villain "Gaffar' played by Amjad Khan --- that so many writers on Indian film keep calling by some kind of knee-jerk recitation of the Standard Litany "The greatest Indian screen villain of all-time" -- -- this is absolute total bullshit! The villain in ZANJEER (Anjit as "Teja") was far more convincing, as have been numerous other Indian villains --
and Lee van Cleef in any of his Sergio Leone films would just blow Amjad away --
Sholay works very well as an action comedy in the first section, culminating in the Marvelous Bit by ASRANI as the hysterically funny Hitler of a jail warden (better than Chaplin!!) -- but sort of goes on from there as Second Rate "Magnificent Seven minus Five", with the burden of the plot being carried along by the excellent actor Sanjeev Kumar as the armless Thakur (Homage to or ripoff of Nargis' husband in Mother India?) and stumbles to a stirring (but badly filmed and unconvincing ) climax -- borrowed from the one-armed Spencer Tracy in "Bad Day at Block Rock" -- However ... along the way, you have all these nifty bits between Dharmendra and Malina -- (that pick the film up every time it starts to drag) -- and most of the buddy-shtikk between Amitji and Dharamji is a cut above Jerry Lewis --
All in all, I think that "Sholay" is surprisingly 'light' (unheavy and luminous) rather than 'dark' -- by no means "tightly constructed" -- very uneven, in fact -- both in narrative DRIVE and filming style -- but highly entertaining (although longishly so) --and certainly does deserve the status of a major cult film -- but Great Cinema this is not -- Pretty Good, yes ...(given the intentions of the filmmakers to come up with a Box-office smash based on a soup of maybe ten Hollywood films) -- but Great it is not -- except in size. The fantastic devotion of the Indian public to "Sholay" over the years, and the fact that serious writers and filmmakers always rank it very high or atop their listings of All-time Best Indian Films --has far less to do with Cinematic quality or "Bestness, and far more to do with Indian Social Psychology and the Mass Hypnosis effect that seems to prevail there carried on the wings of the quasi-religious devotion to the music of these films.
I can think of numerous similar Indian films that are actually much better than "Sholay" in absolute cinematic terms -- and would probably stand up better to a non-preconditioned western audience; for example, "Kalnayak", "Dilse" -- and, probably "Bandit Queen".
I would like to see "Sholay" on a double bill with "The Good, the Bad, and the Beautiful" -- and compare audience reaction --
both were made at roughly the same time. (or, better yet, coupled with "High Noon", or maybe Quentin Tarantino's Japanese Samurai Sword essays with Uma Thurman. (The Kill Bills crap)
Feel free to publish this assessment of "Sholay" if you don't think it would be too offensive to some of the True Believers in India or elserwhere..
Next up, "Yash Chopra's "SILSILA" --stay tuned .....
Alex Sinha,
Hollywood, USA